Apostate Kate

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  Say What's On Your Mind

  by minimus in

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  go ahead.....speak your mind!

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  Apostate Kate

  Dave's gonna be home soon yes yes yes....soon soon soon....it is almost 4 so he will prolly leave soon and maybe be home by 5. I love it when he comes home. I love it when he is home.

  American Idol starts tonight yippeeee one of the few shows we watch and enjoy together. Wish I had some soy ice cream for the event. I love vanilla soy ice cream with a banana, oh that would taste so good.

  My saddle will be here soon!..it didn't come today but it still could... need to order a good saddle pad...how bad is Governer (the horse) going to be? He is a mental case...can I handle it? yes..why not. Maybe he will respond better with me on his back than he does on groundwork...God don't let me get broken up please...the saddle is going to be soooo coooool! It is an Arabian endurance saddle. funfunfun

  mmmmmm the red lentils and quinoa smells so good with garam masala and spices...

  Tomorrow I'm going to visit the seniors and do some shopping. I hope the organic produce will not be too badly effected by this freak freeze.

  I HAVE to get the prescription for my bleeding this week and make sure I have it on Monday maybe Tuesday but it is overdue so have to make myself do it, do it do it do it...

  I HAVE to work on the calender for the Adopt a Senior ministry, for the whole year no less. Why am I procrastinating this....a whole year! I have a hard time planning so far in the future.

  I love this Forum and all the people (Dave just called he's on his way home yeaaaaaaaaay) all the people here. I love people everywhere. I love the seniors so much.

  I love my animals. I called the vet for Mayola's spaying and Speedy's nail trim. They better not try to drag him like last time I wont allow them to drag old Speedy. I love this old dog. He is my best aussie working ranch dog and 16 years old. Poor old guy's bones been aching with this cold weather. He's not ready to go to doggie heaven yet, he wants to live.

  time for tea
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  Do you have a personal hero?

  by zagor in

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  i was just doing my page on myspace and this question really stuck with me.

  i dont know if something is wrong with me or what, but if i have to answer this question truthfully i have to say i dont have one.

  i like to learn about many different people and their achievements but in reality i just like being myself and not try to emulate someone else.

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  Apostate Kate

  Jesus first. How beautiful to be the Creator of the world and yet paid the price for my screw-ups. His love lead me to my husband.

  My sweet husband second. He made it possible for me to live again, to ride again, to love again. He has made my dreams come true. Dreams that I thought would never be fulfilled in this life.
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  Please say hello to my wife.

  by nicolaou in

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  i've been posting here for quite a long time, so long in fact that it just doesn't feel right that my wife isn't a part of it.

  earlier today i created an account for her with the username heron, she'll know why.

  i'm not sure if my wife will ever post here but i would feel much more comfortable knowing she is aware that i do.. this is the one post i am going to ask her to read.. so, i'd really appreciate it if you could say hello to my lovely wife.

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  Apostate Kate

  Welcome Heron!

  You will find wonderful lovely people here like your dear hubby. It is place where you can be honest about your feelings and thoughts with people who probably have felt the same things.

  Unless one has experienced life as a JW they can not relate to what most of us have been through. It is nice to come here and know that that one part of your life has been shared with so many others.

  There are great minds here too! Great thinkers and researchers who share their knowledge with us. Plus there is no place else you can go to get Watchtower related information.

  Hope to see you post!

  Love~Kate
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  History channel Show Paradise lost

  by seek2find in

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  i saw similarities between the peoples temple and life as a witness.

  one was when the siren would go off and the announcement would be for everyone to gather at the pavillion.

  that was kind of like when we are suppose to have a special announcement.

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  Apostate Kate

  Topic: MAT 24:14 HAS BEEN FULLFILLED MP3 FROM BETHEL HEAVY (page 1)
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  Translation of the Greek word "proskuneo"

  by bob1999 in

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  can someone explain why the nwt translates this word as "worship" in 42 of the 60 occurances in the new testament while translating it "do obedience to" in the 18 instances where jesus is the recipient?

  this seems so blatantly wrong.

  do they think no one will notice or do they have an explanation?

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  Apostate Kate

  My question was not one of doctrine. There can be no excuse to translate a word one way, when it suits one's doctrine, and another way when it does not. This is disingenuous, a lie plain and simple.

  yup Some in the WT are "followers of followers and victims of victims"~Ray Franze and some are liars of liars and know full well what they have done to the Bible.
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  Translation of the Greek word "proskuneo"

  by bob1999 in

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  can someone explain why the nwt translates this word as "worship" in 42 of the 60 occurances in the new testament while translating it "do obedience to" in the 18 instances where jesus is the recipient?

  this seems so blatantly wrong.

  do they think no one will notice or do they have an explanation?

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  Apostate Kate

  Finding the authentic truth set me free too Abby.

  I've never had a better friend than Jesus.
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  Translation of the Greek word "proskuneo"

  by bob1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone explain why the nwt translates this word as "worship" in 42 of the 60 occurances in the new testament while translating it "do obedience to" in the 18 instances where jesus is the recipient?

  this seems so blatantly wrong.

  do they think no one will notice or do they have an explanation?

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  Apostate Kate

  Matthew 8:2-3 And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed.

  Matthew 8:2 And <kai>, behold <idou>, there came <erchomai> a leper <lepros> and worshipped <proskuneo> him <autos>, saying <lego>, Lord <kurios>, if <ean> thou wilt <thelo>, thou canst <dunamai> make <katharizo> me <me> clean <katharizo>.

  Jesus never told the leper NOT to worship him.

  the same word is used for the worship of God.

  4352. proskuneo
  Search for G4352 in KJVSL

  proskunew proskuneo pros-koo-neh'-o

  from 4314 and a probable derivative of 2965 (meaning to
  kiss, like a dog licking his master's hand); to fawn or
  crouch to, i.e. (literally or figuratively) prostrate oneself
  in homage (do reverence to, adore):--worship.

  See Greek 4314
  See Greek 2965
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  Translation of the Greek word "proskuneo"

  by bob1999 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone explain why the nwt translates this word as "worship" in 42 of the 60 occurances in the new testament while translating it "do obedience to" in the 18 instances where jesus is the recipient?

  this seems so blatantly wrong.

  do they think no one will notice or do they have an explanation?

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  Apostate Kate

  Nobody notices because when in a cult the leader is all knowing. If they say proskuneo means do obeisance to Jesus and the same word means to worship Jehovah then that is what they will believe.

  Worship as applied to Jesus by the WT;

  Matthew 2:2 Saying <lego>, Where <pou> is <esti> he that is born <tikto> King <basileus> of the Jews <Ioudaios>? for <gar> we have seen <eido> his <autos> star <aster> in <en> the east <anatole>, and <kai> are come <erchomai> to worship <proskuneo> him <autos>. KJ

  NWT; 2 saying: “Where is the one born king of the Jews? For we saw his star [when we were] in the east, and we have come to do him obeisance.”

  As applied to the Father;

  KJ John 4:23 But <alla> the hour <hora> cometh <erchomai>, and <kai> now <nun> is <esti>, when <hote> the true <alethinos> worshippers <proskunetes> shall worship <proskuneo> the Father <pater> in <en> spirit <pneuma> and <kai> in truth <aletheia>: for <kai> <gar> the Father <pater> seeketh <zeteo> such <toioutos> to worship <proskuneo> him <autos>.

  NWT John 4: 23 Nevertheless, the hour is coming, and it is now, when the true worshipers will worship the Father with spirit and truth, for, indeed, the Father is looking for suchlike ones to worship him.

  Worship Jesus ; Hebrews 1:6 And <de> again <palin>, when <hotan> he bringeth in <eisago> the firstbegotten <prototokos> into <eis> the world <oikoumene>, he saith <lego>, And <kai> let <proskuneo> all <pas> the angels <aggelos> of God <theos> worship <proskuneo> him <autos>.

  NWT; Hebrews 1: 6 But when he again brings his Firstborn into the inhabited earth, he says: “And let all God’s angels do obeisance to him.”

  They do this because it is what keeps millions of people blinded to who the Bible says Jesus really is. That way they can make people slaves to them instead of friends of Jesus.
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  History channel Show Paradise lost

  by seek2find in

  1. jw
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  i saw similarities between the peoples temple and life as a witness.

  one was when the siren would go off and the announcement would be for everyone to gather at the pavillion.

  that was kind of like when we are suppose to have a special announcement.

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  Apostate Kate

  There are strong similarities between all the cults, those similarites are what makes them a cult. The only difference with the WT is they work so hard to appear nice and normal.

  "To heighten our awareness, Them and Us identifies four basic cult behaviors that influence our thinking: 1) compliance with a group, 2) dependence on a leader, 3) avoiding dissent, and 4) devaluing the outsider. These forces operate in all aspects of society. The core process is devaluing the outsider, resulting in Them-versus-Us behavior." Dr. Diekman

  After listening to that freaky elder on that mp3 yesterday... The ones still hanging on at this point have got to be feeling high anxiety.

  Edited to add this link if anyone wants to read his bookThem and Us: Cult Thinking and the Terrorist Threat
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  Decoding the Past series "Cults: Dangerous Devotion" today @ 5pm pacific

  by Apostate Kate in

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  more than likely the wt will not be mentioned, but may be worth watching.

  it is on "the history channel" two hours from now on the program "decoding the past"

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  Apostate Kate

  Naw wasn't really worth the time...

  All it was, was a little repackaging of the same ol same ol. They had the Branch Davidians, the Helter Skelter dude, and Jonestown.

  People just don't get it that one of Americas largest cults makes house calls.